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June 23, 2009

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yes, wise words all!! let the freebies roll in and the demands be few. Ahhh, bliss.

What Milla said. (And are there really such big bad rivalries between mummy bloggers?)

Yup, all sensible stuff here. Still bemused (but chuffed) at my mummyblogger status (and roll on more nice trips like Disney!) but yes, PRs do need to be careful. Big bad rivalries? Maybe, but none amongst my band of bloggers (I save my bile for other targets!).... in fact, come on, spill the beans?!

Hi Tim and Exmoor Jane

Yes, there are feuds! I think it's inevitable that divides will appear in any community, and once there's money on the table, those divides become more and more apparent.

For example, I recently received an email from one parenting blogger complaining that there wasn't enough attention being paid to "experienced" Mummy bloggers and our index should give weighting to "published" bloggers who had written newspaper columns.

Another complained that certain bloggers only got freebies because they were part of a clique of bloggers who all commented on each other's blogs (yes, I know, that's what some of us might call a "community" :-) isn't it?) and gave each other pointless awards, whereas SHE had been shortlisted for an award in a national newspaper, no less.

Another incident I saw was a blogger complaining about the Mummy bloggers being interviewed by journalists - because the blogger knew for a FACT that their traffic was lower than hers.

It's all a bit silly, but it definitely happens and while the bloggers themselves don't need to concern themselves with any of that nonsense, the PR pros would be smart to keep it in mind.

Can I also add to that list, treat us with a little respect.
I've been asked to write a guest piece for a national campaign. They received it, said it was just what they were looking for then I didn't hear from them again. Like I have the time to bash out carefully written pieces? I barely have time to write for my own blog!
I have also been given a lovely pitch, right up my alley, suits my kids, i reply to say yes please that would be lovely and then NOTHING. Ignored. So rude!

From all my years in a newsroom and laterly on the features desk, I have firsthand experience of some of these PRs and they are shockingly bad so parent bloggers shouldn't feel too bad. it's not just you!

I think it's very sad that PRs just blunder in thinking mummy bloggers are a rich source of 'advertising'. Yet if they just took the time to ask, maybe do a bit of research, the rewards could be vast.

I've had a couple of brilliant PRs contact me. Totally switched on, totally understand the blogging community. It's rare, but they are out there!

And rivalries and feuds? Are you sure? Where on earth have you been hanging out! I haven't come across one yet in nearly 2 years of blogging. But I would say that if I discovered 5 other blogs were offering the same competition/review as me I wouldn't been so keen to take it on. Guess it's the journo in me, but I'd want at least some exclusivety!

Tara - I'm a journalist - I only hang out in the seediest sort of places...

Feuds!?!?!? I have found the other Mummy Bloggers nothing but nice, polite and a huge source of support with my own ongoing dramas.

Personally I think that PR's need to pick their market carefully. For example there are certain freebies I would love, being a hard up single parent and all that, so I never look a gift horse etc etc, things that would be of benefit to be, that if it's good then sure enough I will tell all the other Mammy's about. But then there are others that well, I simply can't be bothered with. I recently got about a 10 page email from a PR going on about something or other. To be honest I read the first 2 lines got bored and read no more. See I don't have the time to know the ins and outs or whatever it is you're trying to get me to plug. A week later I got a right snotty email from the PR asking why the link to their product wasn't on my site!!!! Eh!!!! Another email I got was to review something. Looked ok at first, upon receiving realised there was not only very pressing deadline involved but that it was going to take up a good bit of time. Nope. Sorry, just don't have the time. And if they'd read my blog they'd have known this.

Thats shocking, Yummy Mammy!

I agree with what's been written in the above comments.
Companies should take the time to do a little research and then add in a much needed pinch of respect, plus some time.

This has got to be a great opportunity for some PR agency to rake it in. Develop a mummy blogging outreach division -- let's face it, mummy bloggers need a different approach than journos. Whoever gets that first is going to win big time.

And one more thing -- PLEASE STOP SENDING ME PRESS RELEASES!!!!

I used to work exclusively with Mommy bloggers back in the States, and trust me - all the same mistakes were made and continue to be. It will get better here, but it takes time. PRs in the UK are still learning not to send releases to any type of blogger, let alone mums.

What struck me as odd in the UK is the idea that many mummy bloggers do in fact expect to be paid for a post. Public relations is not bought, it's earned based on a mutually beneficial relationship. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what public relations is - and if a PR jumps on it as an ‘opportunity’, it shows the breakdown in the integrity of the industry.

I think mummy blogging here will most likely go down the same route as American mommy blogging. I often found I barely had to pitch any moms in my latter years in the States - they were so keen on being involved, getting free stuff, etc, I - as the PR - would get e-mail requests asking if I would pitch them.

I'd say that's a couple years off here though...

Melanie

Really interesting comment, thanks. Actually, I saw something only this week that makes me think we're getting to that point of paid-for posts a lot quicker than some in the industry might expect - I'll try and find time to blog it tomorrow, and I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Sally

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